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Local resident shares photos of cattle trough

Thank you to Mr George Hebborn for kindly sharing photos of the Norstead Place cattle trough when it was in bloom.

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Medfield Street fountains – correspondence with Historic England and the Council

 

Both Historic England and Wandsworth Borough Council have now been approached regarding the state of the Medfield Street fountains. The email correspondence is below.

From: Sf
To: ghumphries@wandsworth.gov.uk
Cc: Rachel Young <rachel.young@historicengland.org.uk>; London@historicengland.org.uk; John Horrocks
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:56 PM
Subject: State of Grade II listed drinking fountainDear Mr Humphries,By way if an introduction I am a resident of the Alton Estate and after the plight of the cattle trough in Norstead Place I decided to have a look at the state of the fountains at the intersection of Medfield Street and Roehampton Lane.It was not a very well looked after state and and as such alerted Historic England whom have pointed me in your direction.

Can the fountain please be cleaned and the details of the maintenance please be shared.

Regards,

Steve Fannon

Alton Estate Resident

From: “Young, Rachel” <Rachel.Young@HistoricEngland.org.uk>
Date: 17 November 2016 at 17:02:21 GMT
To: SF
Cc: Historic England London <London@historicengland.org.uk>
Subject: RE: State of Grade II listed drinking fountainDear Mr Fannon,Thank you for your email.The upkeep of a listed structure or building is down to the owner and they have a legal obligation to keep it in a good state of repair.  I would imagine in this case the owner is the London Borough of Wandsworth.  I would therefore advise that you direct your email to the Conservation Officer there who may be able to speak to the relevant department and encourage repairs to be made.

Kind regards

Rachel

Rachel Young | Business Officer

Direct Line: 020 7973 3727

Email:  rachel.young@historicengland.org.uk

1 Waterhouse Square | 138-142 Holborn

London | EC1N 2ST

From: SF
Sent: 13 November 2016 12:04
To: Historic England Customers
Subject: State of Grade II listed drinking fountainDear Historic England,You might be interested in the following article regarding the poor state of a Grade II drinking fountain in Roehampton. The referred to blog article below highlights this poor state.https://roeregeneration.wordpress.com/2016/11/12/state-of-the-medfield-street-troughs-and-fountain/

Regards,

Steve Fannon
Roehampton resident

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Missing cattle trough has gotten interesting

The below refers to a Freedom of Information ask which has been made of the Council with regards to the Norstead Place cattle trough. Let’s see what the response will be.

“This is a follow up to Freedom of Request 2016/13735.

A letter (dated 4 November 2016) has been sighted which is from the Drinking Fountain Association. This letter states the following – “We did write to the Chief Executive of Wandsworth Council in June last year asking whether the Council had any intention to restore the trough and asking for their view of if it would be used in its present location. The Council replied saying it was no longer under their jurisdiction and was now under the control of Transport for London who agreed to its removal”.

As a result of this letter the following questions/asks are raised:

  1. Please provide a copy of the letter which the Drinking Fountain Association sent to the Chief Executive of Wandsworth Council in June last year.
  2. Please provide a copy of the response which the Council provided to the Drinking Fountain Association.
  3. When did the Council hand control of the cattle trough to Transport for London?
  4. Please provide the documentation which ceded control of the cattle trough to Transport for London”.

To track progress refer to this link – https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/norstead_place_cattle_trough

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State of the Medfield Street troughs and fountain

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As you may be aware the cattle trough on Norstead Place was recently removed whilst there were plans in place to have it locally listed. This led one resident last Saturday to have a look at the more well known cattle troughs at the intersection of Roehampton Lane and Medfield Street. The following pictures highlight that perhaps there is something not quite right with regards to the maintenance of well respected buildings within the ward and may pose questions regarding maintenance generally across the ward.

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The following provides details about the trough and fountain.

Listing Reference LB/153Status
Status FORMAL
Group Nationally Listed Buildings
Type (Grade) Grade II
Site Address Drinking Fountain, Roehampton Lane, London
Listing Description J C Radford. Dated 1882. Grey and red granite. Doric arcaded kiosk erected by Mrs Lyne Stephens, with cupola and ball finial on stepped plinth flanked by cambered-shape horse troughs north and south. Circular central basin with bronze fountain group by Henry Dasson of putti and fish. Semi-circular basin set into each of 4 sides of kiosk.
Risk Rating  
Group Nationally Listed Buildings
Date Listed 07-04-1983
Ward  

Source:

https://planning1.wandsworth.gov.uk/gis/search/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Listed%20Building%20Details&TYPE=WBCLBPK&PARAM0=286&XSLT=xslt/lbdetails.xslt&DAURI=PLANNING

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The case of the missing cattle trough (part 6) – queries to TfL

Given that the cattle trough had been located in the ward since 1896 and was taken during a process when it was possibly going to be locally listed, residents are owed a bit more detail. The below is a Request for Information to TfL regarding the missing cattle trough.

“Recently a cattle trough which had been residing in the same spot since 1896 in Norstead Place SW15 was recently removed. Wandsworth Borough Council has stated that the land on which the cattle trough was located belongs to the TFL.

With regards to this cattle trough can the following questions please be provided.

1. Whom has taken the cattle trough?
2. What was the reason for removing the cattle trough?
3. When did discussions regarding starting to remove the cattle trough begin?
4. When did discussions with Wandsworth Borough Council (WBC) begin regarding the removal of the cattle trough?
5. The discussions with WBC, what did these entail? For instance, did WBC wish to keep the trough in its current location or was it in favour of having the trough removed?
6. Did TFL inform WBC that the trough was being removed?
7. If the answer to question 6 is yes, please state on what date this was communicated with WBC?
8. Can TfL please provide details of the person/group whom it liaised with whom now has possession of the cattle trough so that local amenity groups could contact this person/group regarding the removal of the cattle trough?”

Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/request_for_information_cattle_t_2#outgoing-592438

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The case of the missing cattle trough (part 5)

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Yesterday the patch of gravel that was left after the removal of the cattle trough on Norstead Place was repaired, as the above picture highlights.

Please leave your views as to whether the cattle trough should be returned.

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The case of the missing cattle trough (part 3)

The Freedom of Information request has been answered and we now have some answers.

This is a follow on article regarding the case of “The case of the missing cattle trough” on Norstead Place, the following questions have been asked via a Freedom of Information and have now been answered;

  1. What was the date this cattle trough was removed?

Answer: The Council did not commission or carry out the removal, so does not hold this information.

  1. How long had this cattle trough been in this location prior to be being removed?

Answer: The Drinking Fountain Association installed the trough in 1896.

  1. What is the reason for removing it?

Answer: The Drinking Fountain Association suggested its removal in 2015, but TfL (which has responsibility for the land on which it was situated, and for  the trough’s upkeep) disagreed, stating that it would identify additional  funding to better maintain the trough, such as with a potable water  supply. TfL has since permitted the Drinking Fountain Association to remove the trough to Leith Hill national trust site.

  1. Where is the trough now?

Answer: The Council did not commission or carry out the removal, so does not hold  this information.

  1. Will the cattle trough be returned to the position it was taken from?

Answer: The Council did not commission or carry out the removal, so does not hold this information.

  1. If the answer to the above question is “no”, then what are the plans for the cattle trough?

Answer: See 3 above.

  1. Prior to removing this trough, was the Council aware that the Putney Society was considering to raise this trough as a candidate for local  listing?

Answer: Yes, and was working with the Putney Society to facilitate this.

Source: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/query_regarding_the_removal_of_t

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The case of the missing cattle trough (part 2)

As a follow on to the first part of “The case of the missing cattle trough” on Norstead Place, the following questions have been asked via a Freedom of Information;

  1. What was the date this cattle trough was removed?
  2. How long had this cattle trough been in this location prior to be being removed?
  3. What is the reason for removing it?
  4. Where is the trough now?
  5. Will the cattle trough be returned to the position it was taken from?
  6. If the answer to the above question is “no”, then what are the plans for the cattle trough?
  7. Prior to removing this trough, was the Council aware that the Putney Society was considering to raise this trough as a candidate for local listing?

To keep an eye on this to see what answers are produced, click on this sentence.

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